Basque region itinerary - need help please
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Basque region itinerary - need help please
Hello there, I am planning a 9 day trip to the Basque region the first week of June, and looking for some advice with organizing my itinerary.
My husband and I will be flying in and out of Bilbao, planning to rent a car there. I am thinking to drive to France immediately upon landing, and spend 3-4 days in Bordeaux exploring the region and some wineries, then return back to Spain, stay 3-4 days in San Sebastian. I'm excited to visit Bilbao, especially the Guggenheim museum, but can't decide whether to do it as a day trip from SS or stay in Bilbao itself and, if stay there, whether its best to start with that or leave it to the end. Also would love to visit Rioja, possibly as a day trip as well. I need to pick a 3rd location to stay for 1 or 2 nights, just can't decide where. If we were travelling later in the season, I'd definitely head to a beach resort town, but as it's likely not going to be beach weather yet, we can probably limit the beach to a short visit and stay elsewhere.
A bit about us - we are an active couple in our 40s. We enjoy beach time (although I realize this will not be much of a beach trip due to the timing), a scenic hike, enjoy a bit of culture/history, and really look forward to good food and wine that this region has to offer.
I welcome all your thoughts and recommendations and thank in advance for everyone's contribution.
My husband and I will be flying in and out of Bilbao, planning to rent a car there. I am thinking to drive to France immediately upon landing, and spend 3-4 days in Bordeaux exploring the region and some wineries, then return back to Spain, stay 3-4 days in San Sebastian. I'm excited to visit Bilbao, especially the Guggenheim museum, but can't decide whether to do it as a day trip from SS or stay in Bilbao itself and, if stay there, whether its best to start with that or leave it to the end. Also would love to visit Rioja, possibly as a day trip as well. I need to pick a 3rd location to stay for 1 or 2 nights, just can't decide where. If we were travelling later in the season, I'd definitely head to a beach resort town, but as it's likely not going to be beach weather yet, we can probably limit the beach to a short visit and stay elsewhere.
A bit about us - we are an active couple in our 40s. We enjoy beach time (although I realize this will not be much of a beach trip due to the timing), a scenic hike, enjoy a bit of culture/history, and really look forward to good food and wine that this region has to offer.
I welcome all your thoughts and recommendations and thank in advance for everyone's contribution.
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For hiking,the Basque region against the Pyrenees might be a good destination away from the cities.
this area is about 1 hour from San Sebastian
Trip Report: Spanish Basque Country, Asturias and Leon, Madrid==July 2018
And the Astrurias offer beaches and mountains too.
this area is about 1 hour from San Sebastian
Trip Report: Spanish Basque Country, Asturias and Leon, Madrid==July 2018
And the Astrurias offer beaches and mountains too.
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If you are flying in from overseas I would not drive to Bordeaux as its about a 4 hour drive. I would spend the night in Bilbao and take in the Guggenheim and some Pintxos before heading to France. You might also want to spend your last night in Bilbao before you leave to see what you missed.
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My husband and I will be flying in and out of Bilbao, planning to rent a car there. I am thinking to drive to France immediately upon landing, and spend 3-4 days in Bordeaux exploring the region and some wineries, then return back to Spain, stay 3-4 days in San Sebastian. I'm excited to visit Bilbao, especially the Guggenheim museum, but can't decide whether to do it as a day trip from SS or stay in Bilbao itself and, if stay there, whether its best to start with that or leave it to the end. Also would love to visit Rioja, possibly as a day trip as well. I need to pick a 3rd location to stay for 1 or 2 nights, just can't decide where. If we were travelling later in the season, I'd definitely head to a beach resort town, but as it's likely not going to be beach weather yet, we can probably limit the beach to a short visit and stay elsewhere.
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I agree with mikelg and mjs.
After flying in to Bilbao, I think you really won't want to drive all the way to Bordeaux.
Are the city of Bordeaux and wine touring around it (Médoc, St-Emilion, etc.) a big priority?
If not, I would stick to the Basque Country for your 8 nights/9 days with more than enough beauty and interesting sights to explore, as mikelg has listed, between Bilbao and the wonderful very Basque city of Bayonne/Baiona, on the French side.
And as mikelg notes, the Rioja wine region is much closer to Bilbao and Haro, the "capital" of the Rioja Alta D.O.C,. boasts 7 visitable wineries, several centuries old, in its lower town (Barrio de la Estación), all walkable from one to another, and the area between Haro and Laguardia (plus Laguardia itself) offers many interesting wineries, from highly contemporary structures to ancient underground cellars .
The hike from San Sebastián to Pasai, part of the Camino del Norte, coastal route to St. James, is quite scenic, or you can hike a bit of the Talaia trail (also part of the Camino del Norte) from Hondarribia's Jaizkibel mountain, starting at the Hermitage of Guadalupe. Or take the La Rhune scenic train outside of Sare on the French side up to the summit, then hike down.
And Hondarribia itself makes for another nice base on the Spanish side to visit the lovely, postcard picture pretty Pays Basque inland towns of Sare, Ainhoa, Espelette, Cambo-les-Bains, Saint-Pée-sur-Nivelle.
After flying in to Bilbao, I think you really won't want to drive all the way to Bordeaux.
Are the city of Bordeaux and wine touring around it (Médoc, St-Emilion, etc.) a big priority?
If not, I would stick to the Basque Country for your 8 nights/9 days with more than enough beauty and interesting sights to explore, as mikelg has listed, between Bilbao and the wonderful very Basque city of Bayonne/Baiona, on the French side.
And as mikelg notes, the Rioja wine region is much closer to Bilbao and Haro, the "capital" of the Rioja Alta D.O.C,. boasts 7 visitable wineries, several centuries old, in its lower town (Barrio de la Estación), all walkable from one to another, and the area between Haro and Laguardia (plus Laguardia itself) offers many interesting wineries, from highly contemporary structures to ancient underground cellars .
The hike from San Sebastián to Pasai, part of the Camino del Norte, coastal route to St. James, is quite scenic, or you can hike a bit of the Talaia trail (also part of the Camino del Norte) from Hondarribia's Jaizkibel mountain, starting at the Hermitage of Guadalupe. Or take the La Rhune scenic train outside of Sare on the French side up to the summit, then hike down.
And Hondarribia itself makes for another nice base on the Spanish side to visit the lovely, postcard picture pretty Pays Basque inland towns of Sare, Ainhoa, Espelette, Cambo-les-Bains, Saint-Pée-sur-Nivelle.
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If you want to visit the wineries where the big names are made, of course, we won't convince you to forget about a side trip to Bordeaux area (almost 4 hours one way from Bilbao).
On top of recommendations for the Rioja, Basques also make some wine and it could be a nice experience to visit wineries there, with wines almost unknown outside the region, like Txakoli (white wine produced south) or Iroulegi (red wine produced north). Also in Navarra.
just a small note on hiking and Maribel's recommendations: I recently hiked both La Rhune (up and down because the clog train doesn't operate right now) and Jaizkibel. Jaizkibel is a must on a clear day, with gorgeous views on the ocean and snow capped mountains on the other side. But La Rhune (down to the station) should be avoided. The path is terribly eroded and very steep (hiking poles essential).
On top of recommendations for the Rioja, Basques also make some wine and it could be a nice experience to visit wineries there, with wines almost unknown outside the region, like Txakoli (white wine produced south) or Iroulegi (red wine produced north). Also in Navarra.
just a small note on hiking and Maribel's recommendations: I recently hiked both La Rhune (up and down because the clog train doesn't operate right now) and Jaizkibel. Jaizkibel is a must on a clear day, with gorgeous views on the ocean and snow capped mountains on the other side. But La Rhune (down to the station) should be avoided. The path is terribly eroded and very steep (hiking poles essential).
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Yes! As rouelan says, txakolí, with several visitable wineries in and around Getaria-Zarautz and also in the Urdaibai, east of Bilbao around Gernika and Bakio.
We've also visited Iroulégy wineries between Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port, the village of Iroulégy and Saint-Étienne-de-Baïgorry, the smallest appellation, I believe, in France.
The ones we've visited don't speak much English, ime, except for the largest producer Domaine Brana, that also makes spirits and even gin.
But at the cooperative in Saint-Étienne-de-Baïgorry you can sample wines from all the Irouléguy producers....very handy and they speak good English. We've also purchased hand painted wine coolers there produced from the poterie (ceramicist) Pierre Goicoechea in Osses. it's a very, very pretty drive down from the coast to Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port and over to Saint-Étienne-de-Baïgorry. Truly beautiful scenery. And there the family-run Hotel Arcé at the riverīs edge makes for a wonderful, atmospheric lunch stop. Monday, BTW, is the traditional outdoor market day in Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port.
Thanks for the update, rouelan, on the hike down from la Rhune! Duly noted!
We've also visited Iroulégy wineries between Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port, the village of Iroulégy and Saint-Étienne-de-Baïgorry, the smallest appellation, I believe, in France.
The ones we've visited don't speak much English, ime, except for the largest producer Domaine Brana, that also makes spirits and even gin.
But at the cooperative in Saint-Étienne-de-Baïgorry you can sample wines from all the Irouléguy producers....very handy and they speak good English. We've also purchased hand painted wine coolers there produced from the poterie (ceramicist) Pierre Goicoechea in Osses. it's a very, very pretty drive down from the coast to Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port and over to Saint-Étienne-de-Baïgorry. Truly beautiful scenery. And there the family-run Hotel Arcé at the riverīs edge makes for a wonderful, atmospheric lunch stop. Monday, BTW, is the traditional outdoor market day in Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port.
Thanks for the update, rouelan, on the hike down from la Rhune! Duly noted!
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For what it's worth, the scenery in the Basque Country wine region of Rioja Alavesa, the txakolí wine regions of the Basque Country, whether it be around Getaria or in Bizkaia in the Urdaibai or in the French Basque Country Irouléguy appellation. will be even prettier, as in more dramatically scenic, ime, in June, than in the flatter area around Bordeaux, if that matters.
I would consider spending your 8 nights in the Basque Country alone, delving into both sides, Spanish and French. You donīt need to go south to Navarra for great hiking opportunities, although there are many.
I would consider spending your 8 nights in the Basque Country alone, delving into both sides, Spanish and French. You donīt need to go south to Navarra for great hiking opportunities, although there are many.
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Whatever you decide (and I agree with the others re as good or better scenery in Basque country). - whatever your final plan - do not pick up a car and drive on your arrival day. Even if it wasn't tiring and dangerous - why start out on holiday totally frazzled after an overnight flight, mucking about with the rental agency, and driving hours on unfamiliar roads with unfamiliar road signs etc.
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Obviously!! Do not do it, as janisj and others have said! Stay in Bilbao and enjoy this wonderful city and visit the places that our Bilbao native, mikelg, has recommended.
And yes, the scenery in the Basque Country, both sides, is even better, more impressive, than in the flatter Gironde.
If youīre planning a Basque Country trip, we recommend that you stay in the Basque Country, again, on both sides rather than venture west to Asturias or south to Navarra, which would require far more time to do them justice.
Anywhere from your landing in Bilbao to Bayonne in the Pays Basque--it's all wonderful.
And yes, the scenery in the Basque Country, both sides, is even better, more impressive, than in the flatter Gironde.
If youīre planning a Basque Country trip, we recommend that you stay in the Basque Country, again, on both sides rather than venture west to Asturias or south to Navarra, which would require far more time to do them justice.
Anywhere from your landing in Bilbao to Bayonne in the Pays Basque--it's all wonderful.
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And do not forget about the smallest D.O. in Spain, Arabako Txakolina, with a very small number of producers, making excellent red, white and "ojo de gallo" (roosterīs eye) rosé txakoli, most of them in the inland mountains south of Bilbao and in the province of Araba. The Basque Country is small, but produces wine in 5 distinctive regions under a D.O., plus cider and patxaran, the spirit made from blueberries. And of course, great vermouths.
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And also several other txakolindegis, like hidden Garate...and those near Orduņa, where you can also have a great meal.Artomaņa, Tantaka, the unique txakolis from Bat Gara, the small Gure Ahaleginak...plan at least two full days. And finish your visit at Izoria cheese farm!
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