Berlin with pre- and teenage boys + road trip
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Berlin with pre- and teenage boys + road trip
Hi all,
We are rolling the dice that COVID will cooperate and booked 18 days in Germany (travel days excluded) from end of March to mid April. We will spend 7-9 days in Berlin visiting friends and then will embark on a to-be-determined week or more road trip. We are German speakers (for the most part) and it is my boys', 12 and 14, 3rd trip to Germany. We will be keeping ourselves busy during the school day and need some tips. Boys have seen Berlin 2 times before, so we are looking for some unique Berlin sights and/or day trips. One boy is a GREAT traveler and loves museums, music, history, architecture and the other is a bit of a Philistine, so I need to try and find things for both of them to do. It is just me and the boys, as my husband has decided to stay home this trip.
We have friends in Dresden and our multi-day trip will probably include Prague and Dresden. We've visited Dresden, Goerlitz, Bautzen, Spreewald, and Saechsische Schweiz a few times as a family and I've spent many solo trips in the region. We had plans to visit friends in Bayern and outside of Vienna, but with COVID, I decided to minimize our trip and stick to fewer border crossings and varied COVID rules. (We are all as vaxxed as we can get.)
I am hoping to get the following:
- off-the-beaten path tips for Berlin
-any vegan (or dairy free) restaurants, cafes, etc for my dairy free vegetarian in Berlin
-suggestions on where you'd go if you had 8-9ish days to make a road trip from Berlin (with kids)
-our lodging in Berlin is confirmed (across the park from our 11 year old best friend, score!), but any tips elsewhere would be welcome
-we'd be open to bike tours, etc...
Thank you! (This is the first trip in decades where I had some freedom to not visit specific friends/places.)
We are rolling the dice that COVID will cooperate and booked 18 days in Germany (travel days excluded) from end of March to mid April. We will spend 7-9 days in Berlin visiting friends and then will embark on a to-be-determined week or more road trip. We are German speakers (for the most part) and it is my boys', 12 and 14, 3rd trip to Germany. We will be keeping ourselves busy during the school day and need some tips. Boys have seen Berlin 2 times before, so we are looking for some unique Berlin sights and/or day trips. One boy is a GREAT traveler and loves museums, music, history, architecture and the other is a bit of a Philistine, so I need to try and find things for both of them to do. It is just me and the boys, as my husband has decided to stay home this trip.
We have friends in Dresden and our multi-day trip will probably include Prague and Dresden. We've visited Dresden, Goerlitz, Bautzen, Spreewald, and Saechsische Schweiz a few times as a family and I've spent many solo trips in the region. We had plans to visit friends in Bayern and outside of Vienna, but with COVID, I decided to minimize our trip and stick to fewer border crossings and varied COVID rules. (We are all as vaxxed as we can get.)
I am hoping to get the following:
- off-the-beaten path tips for Berlin
-any vegan (or dairy free) restaurants, cafes, etc for my dairy free vegetarian in Berlin
-suggestions on where you'd go if you had 8-9ish days to make a road trip from Berlin (with kids)
-our lodging in Berlin is confirmed (across the park from our 11 year old best friend, score!), but any tips elsewhere would be welcome
-we'd be open to bike tours, etc...
Thank you! (This is the first trip in decades where I had some freedom to not visit specific friends/places.)
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Hi wendy17, veganism is having a moment in Germany, it's everywhere at the moment. If you know veganism you might know the Happy Cow website, which has restaurants and food outlets in many places including Berlin:
https://www.happycow.net/europe/germany/berlin/
Sorry I can't comment on any of their tips, I don't live in Berlin, nor am I vegan
As for road trips, had you thought of travelling north and visiting the Baltic Coast? Some years back my family and I did the Brick Gothic Route from Lüneburg to Parchim, although it goes further. It is not quite as nice or as compelling once it crosses the Land border into M-V, but we certainly found it interesting. We spent several days in Wismar and visited Schwerin as well. Then our trip went back west and we left that region. However, I would have liked to have seen Rostock and Stralsund, and perhaps also Gdansk. Certainly something for you to research, anyway. I might add that you pretty much need German skills if travelling in those parts, Russian is the second language for many people there, and English is not widely spoken.
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https://www.happycow.net/europe/germany/berlin/
Sorry I can't comment on any of their tips, I don't live in Berlin, nor am I vegan
As for road trips, had you thought of travelling north and visiting the Baltic Coast? Some years back my family and I did the Brick Gothic Route from Lüneburg to Parchim, although it goes further. It is not quite as nice or as compelling once it crosses the Land border into M-V, but we certainly found it interesting. We spent several days in Wismar and visited Schwerin as well. Then our trip went back west and we left that region. However, I would have liked to have seen Rostock and Stralsund, and perhaps also Gdansk. Certainly something for you to research, anyway. I might add that you pretty much need German skills if travelling in those parts, Russian is the second language for many people there, and English is not widely spoken.
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Hi wendy17, veganism is having a moment in Germany, it's everywhere at the moment. If you know veganism you might know the Happy Cow website, which has restaurants and food outlets in many places including Berlin:
https://www.happycow.net/europe/germany/berlin/
Sorry I can't comment on any of their tips, I don't live in Berlin, nor am I vegan
As for road trips, had you thought of travelling north and visiting the Baltic Coast? Some years back my family and I did the Brick Gothic Route from Lüneburg to Parchim, although it goes further. It is not quite as nice or as compelling once it crosses the Land border into M-V, but we certainly found it interesting. We spent several days in Wismar and visited Schwerin as well. Then our trip went back west and we left that region. However, I would have liked to have seen Rostock and Stralsund, and perhaps also Gdansk. Certainly something for you to research, anyway. I might add that you pretty much need German skills if travelling in those parts, Russian is the second language for many people there, and English is not widely spoken.
Lavandula
https://www.happycow.net/europe/germany/berlin/
Sorry I can't comment on any of their tips, I don't live in Berlin, nor am I vegan
As for road trips, had you thought of travelling north and visiting the Baltic Coast? Some years back my family and I did the Brick Gothic Route from Lüneburg to Parchim, although it goes further. It is not quite as nice or as compelling once it crosses the Land border into M-V, but we certainly found it interesting. We spent several days in Wismar and visited Schwerin as well. Then our trip went back west and we left that region. However, I would have liked to have seen Rostock and Stralsund, and perhaps also Gdansk. Certainly something for you to research, anyway. I might add that you pretty much need German skills if travelling in those parts, Russian is the second language for many people there, and English is not widely spoken.
Lavandula
I also haven't spent really any time north of Berlin, so maybe worth looking into. I have always wondered about an itinerary in M-V, although we typically visit in the summer. Stralsund and Rugen have always looked intriguing. Maybe I will take a hard look at travelling north instead of south! I am comfortable in my German, so maybe worth the trip since the non-German speaker is staying home this trip!
Thanks!
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I also haven't spent really any time north of Berlin, so maybe worth looking into. I have always wondered about an itinerary in M-V, although we typically visit in the summer. Stralsund and Rugen have always looked intriguing. Maybe I will take a hard look at travelling north instead of south! I am comfortable in my German, so maybe worth the trip since the non-German speaker is staying home this trip!
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It doesn't seem you need ideas for the Dresden region as you have friends there, but if you do let me know. Just noticed that Freiberg and Meissen are not on the list of places you visited. The narrow-gauge steam trains Radebeul to Moritzburg and Freital to Kipsdorf could be of interest for both boys.
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It doesn't seem you need ideas for the Dresden region as you have friends there, but if you do let me know. Just noticed that Freiberg and Meissen are not on the list of places you visited. The narrow-gauge steam trains Radebeul to Moritzburg and Freital to Kipsdorf could be of interest for both boys.
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Freiberg is Saxony's historic mining capital - since the 12th century. Beautiful old town. Don't miss the Dom, best with guided tour and organ recital (famous Baroque organ). Highlights are the Romanesque 'Golden Portal', the Baroque 'Tulip pulpit' and the Renaissance burial chapel in the old choir. Another *must* is the Terra Mineralia exhibit (amazing minerals from all over the world, one of the world's largest and best exhibits) in Schloss Freudenstein. If you are interested (Corona allowing) then a tour of a mine is very well worth your time - and kids will probably love it, too. For lunch check out Stadtwirtschaft (rustic, Czech beer and food, www.stadtwirtschaft.de), Himmel und Hölle (slow food, business lunch, a bit more 'fine dining', www.himmelundhoelle-freiberg.de) e.g.
For coffee and cake check out Kaffee Hartmann (Art Deco style - pretty unique in Germany as it is still the original interior, www.cafe-hartmann.de) or across the street Cafe Momo with its own coffee roastery (www.roesterei-momo.de).
For the narrow-gauge steam trains check these website: www.sdg-bahn.de (with infos on all three trains operated by them - Fichtelbergbahn is farther away, but highly recommended if there is still snow in the higher Erzgebirge mountains.)
Finding a place as base from where you make day trips is an excellent idea. There are many options (read: different districts) in Dresden and each can give you a totally different feel. Your boys would probably love the Neustadt district. Or try the area around Blaues Wunder bridge - Schillerplatz has food markets on Tue, Thur, Sat, many little shops, cafes, restaurants ... Would be perfect for bike rides along the Elbe river, too (Pillnitz with spring flowers, camellia maybe still in bloom ...) Another town worth considering is Pirna - beautiful old town with lots of shops, restaurants, cafes, bakeries ... and four trains per hour to Dresden, 21 minutes to Hauptbahnhof. If you are familiar with Radebeul, that's another option - I recommend Altkötzschenbroda area. Just yesterday I bought a focaccia and a glass of wine there for lunch at an Italian alimentari/cafe and enjoyed it on a bench on the square in the sun. Nice
Day trip to Prague is not as bad as it sounds. It is a comfortable and quick train ride. Dep. 7:27, arr. 9:48, back 18:06 and arr. 20:20.
Let me know if I can help further!
For coffee and cake check out Kaffee Hartmann (Art Deco style - pretty unique in Germany as it is still the original interior, www.cafe-hartmann.de) or across the street Cafe Momo with its own coffee roastery (www.roesterei-momo.de).
For the narrow-gauge steam trains check these website: www.sdg-bahn.de (with infos on all three trains operated by them - Fichtelbergbahn is farther away, but highly recommended if there is still snow in the higher Erzgebirge mountains.)
Finding a place as base from where you make day trips is an excellent idea. There are many options (read: different districts) in Dresden and each can give you a totally different feel. Your boys would probably love the Neustadt district. Or try the area around Blaues Wunder bridge - Schillerplatz has food markets on Tue, Thur, Sat, many little shops, cafes, restaurants ... Would be perfect for bike rides along the Elbe river, too (Pillnitz with spring flowers, camellia maybe still in bloom ...) Another town worth considering is Pirna - beautiful old town with lots of shops, restaurants, cafes, bakeries ... and four trains per hour to Dresden, 21 minutes to Hauptbahnhof. If you are familiar with Radebeul, that's another option - I recommend Altkötzschenbroda area. Just yesterday I bought a focaccia and a glass of wine there for lunch at an Italian alimentari/cafe and enjoyed it on a bench on the square in the sun. Nice
Day trip to Prague is not as bad as it sounds. It is a comfortable and quick train ride. Dep. 7:27, arr. 9:48, back 18:06 and arr. 20:20.
Let me know if I can help further!
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Freiberg is Saxony's historic mining capital - since the 12th century. Beautiful old town. Don't miss the Dom, best with guided tour and organ recital (famous Baroque organ). Highlights are the Romanesque 'Golden Portal', the Baroque 'Tulip pulpit' and the Renaissance burial chapel in the old choir. Another *must* is the Terra Mineralia exhibit (amazing minerals from all over the world, one of the world's largest and best exhibits) in Schloss Freudenstein. If you are interested (Corona allowing) then a tour of a mine is very well worth your time - and kids will probably love it, too. For lunch check out Stadtwirtschaft (rustic, Czech beer and food, www.stadtwirtschaft.de), Himmel und Hölle (slow food, business lunch, a bit more 'fine dining', www.himmelundhoelle-freiberg.de) e.g.
For coffee and cake check out Kaffee Hartmann (Art Deco style - pretty unique in Germany as it is still the original interior, www.cafe-hartmann.de) or across the street Cafe Momo with its own coffee roastery (www.roesterei-momo.de).
For the narrow-gauge steam trains check these website: www.sdg-bahn.de (with infos on all three trains operated by them - Fichtelbergbahn is farther away, but highly recommended if there is still snow in the higher Erzgebirge mountains.)
Finding a place as base from where you make day trips is an excellent idea. There are many options (read: different districts) in Dresden and each can give you a totally different feel. Your boys would probably love the Neustadt district. Or try the area around Blaues Wunder bridge - Schillerplatz has food markets on Tue, Thur, Sat, many little shops, cafes, restaurants ... Would be perfect for bike rides along the Elbe river, too (Pillnitz with spring flowers, camellia maybe still in bloom ...) Another town worth considering is Pirna - beautiful old town with lots of shops, restaurants, cafes, bakeries ... and four trains per hour to Dresden, 21 minutes to Hauptbahnhof. If you are familiar with Radebeul, that's another option - I recommend Altkötzschenbroda area. Just yesterday I bought a focaccia and a glass of wine there for lunch at an Italian alimentari/cafe and enjoyed it on a bench on the square in the sun. Nice
Day trip to Prague is not as bad as it sounds. It is a comfortable and quick train ride. Dep. 7:27, arr. 9:48, back 18:06 and arr. 20:20.
Let me know if I can help further!
For coffee and cake check out Kaffee Hartmann (Art Deco style - pretty unique in Germany as it is still the original interior, www.cafe-hartmann.de) or across the street Cafe Momo with its own coffee roastery (www.roesterei-momo.de).
For the narrow-gauge steam trains check these website: www.sdg-bahn.de (with infos on all three trains operated by them - Fichtelbergbahn is farther away, but highly recommended if there is still snow in the higher Erzgebirge mountains.)
Finding a place as base from where you make day trips is an excellent idea. There are many options (read: different districts) in Dresden and each can give you a totally different feel. Your boys would probably love the Neustadt district. Or try the area around Blaues Wunder bridge - Schillerplatz has food markets on Tue, Thur, Sat, many little shops, cafes, restaurants ... Would be perfect for bike rides along the Elbe river, too (Pillnitz with spring flowers, camellia maybe still in bloom ...) Another town worth considering is Pirna - beautiful old town with lots of shops, restaurants, cafes, bakeries ... and four trains per hour to Dresden, 21 minutes to Hauptbahnhof. If you are familiar with Radebeul, that's another option - I recommend Altkötzschenbroda area. Just yesterday I bought a focaccia and a glass of wine there for lunch at an Italian alimentari/cafe and enjoyed it on a bench on the square in the sun. Nice
Day trip to Prague is not as bad as it sounds. It is a comfortable and quick train ride. Dep. 7:27, arr. 9:48, back 18:06 and arr. 20:20.
Let me know if I can help further!
Great tips, much appreciated!
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Just wanted to lend you some support. We introduced our girls to Europe when they were 13, and we're so glad we did. One daughter did study abroad later, and she's in Germany now as an adult; the other has been to Iceland (and many other places), and they took a pre-COVID trip to Italy together.
I've been to Berlin but not with kids. We, too, are rolling the dice and hoping that we can get back to Europe in March. We're vaccinated and boosted, and we have no problem wearing masks, etc.
Because of COVID, you'll probably need to download the CovPass app and have a pharmacist update your card/status.
Happy travels!
I've been to Berlin but not with kids. We, too, are rolling the dice and hoping that we can get back to Europe in March. We're vaccinated and boosted, and we have no problem wearing masks, etc.
Because of COVID, you'll probably need to download the CovPass app and have a pharmacist update your card/status.
Happy travels!
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For a road trip, how about Lower Saxony and Saxony-Anhalt, unless Dresden is a must>
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The great glass bubble that crowns the houses of Parliament – the Reichstag – can impress visitors of all ages. Aside from a guided tour of the interior, the views across the top of Berlin's skyline are hard to match. Arrangements must be made in advance for the sake of security in this centre of government.
https://www.bundestag.de/besucher#ur...&mod=mod829792
https://www.bundestag.de/besucher#ur...&mod=mod829792
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Just wanted to lend you some support. We introduced our girls to Europe when they were 13, and we're so glad we did. One daughter did study abroad later, and she's in Germany now as an adult; the other has been to Iceland (and many other places), and they took a pre-COVID trip to Italy together.
I've been to Berlin but not with kids. We, too, are rolling the dice and hoping that we can get back to Europe in March. We're vaccinated and boosted, and we have no problem wearing masks, etc.
Because of COVID, you'll probably need to download the CovPass app and have a pharmacist update your card/status.
Happy travels!
I've been to Berlin but not with kids. We, too, are rolling the dice and hoping that we can get back to Europe in March. We're vaccinated and boosted, and we have no problem wearing masks, etc.
Because of COVID, you'll probably need to download the CovPass app and have a pharmacist update your card/status.
Happy travels!
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The great glass bubble that crowns the houses of Parliament – the Reichstag – can impress visitors of all ages. Aside from a guided tour of the interior, the views across the top of Berlin's skyline are hard to match. Arrangements must be made in advance for the sake of security in this centre of government.
https://www.bundestag.de/besucher#ur...&mod=mod829792
https://www.bundestag.de/besucher#ur...&mod=mod829792
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For a road trip, how about Lower Saxony and Saxony-Anhalt, unless Dresden is a must>
https://flic.kr/p/fm9FK5 https://flic.kr/p/fkV7DV
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjHhQTHC
https://flic.kr/p/X5hfeC
https://flic.kr/s/aHsm1ByfEG
https://flic.kr/p/fm9FK5 https://flic.kr/p/fkV7DV
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjHhQTHC
https://flic.kr/p/X5hfeC
https://flic.kr/s/aHsm1ByfEG
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For a road trip, how about Lower Saxony and Saxony-Anhalt, unless Dresden is a must>
https://flic.kr/p/fm9FK5 https://flic.kr/p/fkV7DV
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjHhQTHC
https://flic.kr/p/X5hfeC
https://flic.kr/s/aHsm1ByfEG
https://flic.kr/p/fm9FK5 https://flic.kr/p/fkV7DV
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjHhQTHC
https://flic.kr/p/X5hfeC
https://flic.kr/s/aHsm1ByfEG
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Have you thought of going to the coast? Meckenburg-Voor-Pommeren is lovely with woodland heathland and some interesting islands. Peenemünde with it's interesting V-2 museum on Usedom is worth a visit.
Prora on Rügen is also interesting: https://www.dw.com/en/the-colossus-o...ort/a-50199173. Rügen is a lovely island even if you aren't into such things.
The area is popular with Germans but little visited by foreigners.
Coincidentally there is an article in the Guardian today on Usedom: https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...unniest-island
There is lots to do in that whole area.
Prora on Rügen is also interesting: https://www.dw.com/en/the-colossus-o...ort/a-50199173. Rügen is a lovely island even if you aren't into such things.
The area is popular with Germans but little visited by foreigners.
Coincidentally there is an article in the Guardian today on Usedom: https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...unniest-island
There is lots to do in that whole area.
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