Delta’s New Frequent Flyer Policy

Old Dec 31st, 2021, 11:20 AM
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Delta’s New Frequent Flyer Policy

I was aggravated to see that Delta will no longer give FF points for economy tickets. My understanding is that you can still get an economy seat with FF points. Was this how you heard it?
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Old Dec 31st, 2021, 11:46 AM
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It applies to basic economy. Main cabin tickets still get miles. But yes, that kind of sucks, although I try to avoid basic economy and all its restrictions.
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Old Dec 31st, 2021, 12:06 PM
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I'd be far more annoyed that they are eliminating the flexibility to change and cancel they instituted with Covid. I don't count on flights to earn miles anyway; we use our CC spending for that. We are United FFs, not Delta.

https://www.travelandleisure.com/air...-miles-program
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Old Dec 31st, 2021, 12:06 PM
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But yes, that kind of sucks, although I try to avoid basic economy and all its restrictions.
We almost always fly basic economy.

The "best" tickets were when we ended up in the very last row of seats that don't recline next to the bathrooms on the way to Hawaii. The FA felt bad for us and gave us free prosecco the entire trip so it wasn't completely awful.
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Old Dec 31st, 2021, 12:22 PM
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We almost always fly basic economy.

The "best" tickets were when we ended up in the very last row of seats that don't recline next to the bathrooms on the way to Hawaii. The FA felt bad for us and gave us free prosecco the entire trip so it wasn't completely awful.
If I am traveling alone, I am more likely to book a basic economy ticket. But the scenario you described is what I would like to avoid. Even with the free prosecco! Like schlegal, I get most of my miles from my credit card.
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Old Dec 31st, 2021, 12:56 PM
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Like schlegal, I get most of my miles from my credit card.
Same here. We don't fly enough for me to pay much attention to what miles we're amassing from flights.
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It should be universal consumer law that loyalty programs must publicize a summary of “How We Are Shafting You Now”. I rarely check my Air Canada points total anymore. Between the additional fees and the lack of available Aeroplan tickets it isn’t really worth it.

(That’s a bit strong but I hate getting shafted.)
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I wonder how long FF programs will even continue. I have heard there are murmurings to eliminate them in some countries because of how air travel contributes to climate change and it's considered unconscionable to incentivize it with FF programs. I don't foresee that in the USA soon but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens way down the road.

We always fly basic economy unless we are using points for the booking (we saved up oodles of them to fly to Rwanda 2022 in business class--fingers crossed).

I'm so thrifty I won't even pay to select seats when we are in basic economy.

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My best economy seats were the last row too, I had the entire row so was "lie flat" all the way to Hawaii.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2022, 08:42 AM
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United and AA have had that policy for a couple of years, I think.
US airlines make $billions by selling FF miles. Banks that offer mileage credit cards buy them.
I don't have any mileage earning cards. I have cards that earn hotel points instead.
I always pay up for a better seat. My shoulders and legs demand it.

I had a $49 fare on a 65-minute flight and paid Southwest an extra $15 to get a better boarding position. They don't have assigned seating. I think I was A-30. I then paid another $90 to get A-2. I did use a $49 credit that I had for a ticket that I forgot to cancel and had decided I would never use. Got row 1 with plenty of legroom and nobody sat in the middle seat. That was worth the extra $41 - at least it would have been worth it to me if it had guaranteed that nobody would be next to me.
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